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A reliable and fair computer protection.
12-28-2014, 11:29 PM
Post: #1
A reliable and fair computer protection.
I used to use AVG but as they increased their charge by 17% this time and also charge to cover my Laptop I have dumped them.
I then looked at Randall Sutherland's top ten protection applications if thats the correct description and found a recommendation at £19.95 but then read that the update required took it up to £59.95 which I consider sharp practice.
I don't mind paying but I want a good level of protection and no smart arse marketing.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
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12-29-2014, 05:15 PM
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RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
Kaspersky is always in the top 3 in the tests. Mostly at 1.

For free antivirus, the best 1 at the moment seems to be Avast.

Link to test-results.

More structural option is to stop using Windows.
Almost all malware is made for Windows, so not using Windows is solution.
But often you need/want to use software that runs on Windows.
If you dont play games of have special software you can use Linux instead of Windows.

Most populair Linux versions are : Linux Mint and Ubuntu.
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01-05-2015, 03:20 AM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2015 03:25 AM by BrickyBrian.)
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RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
(12-29-2014 05:15 PM)Golempie Wrote:  Kaspersky is always in the top 3 in the tests. Mostly at 1.

For free antivirus, the best 1 at the moment seems to be Avast.

Link to test-results.

More structural option is to stop using Windows.
Almost all malware is made for Windows, so not using Windows is solution.
But often you need/want to use software that runs on Windows.
If you dont play games of have special software you can use Linux instead of Windows.

Most populair Linux versions are : Linux Mint and Ubuntu.

I used to use AVG as I wrote above but as they increased their charge by 17% and also charge to cover my Laptop I have dumped them.

I then keyed in, “What is the best Anti Virus” on the Web and Randall Sutherland ‏ came up with Bitdefender Antivirus Plus at £19.27.
I keyed that into the Web which came up with “Bitdefender Antivirus Plus 2015 £41.63 GBP.
That then came up with Bitdefender Virus and Spyware Removal (Bitdefender recommended) £83.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender Install & SetUp £29.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender System Repair £59.99 GBP
A totall of: £215.60
Or have I made a mistake?
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01-06-2015, 09:05 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2015 10:19 PM by Golempie.)
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RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
(01-05-2015 03:20 AM)BrickyBrian Wrote:  I used to use AVG as I wrote above but as they increased their charge by 17% and also charge to cover my Laptop I have dumped them.

I then keyed in, “What is the best Anti Virus” on the Web and Randall Sutherland ‏ came up with Bitdefender Antivirus Plus at £19.27.
I keyed that into the Web which came up with “Bitdefender Antivirus Plus 2015 £41.63 GBP.
That then came up with Bitdefender Virus and Spyware Removal (Bitdefender recommended) £83.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender Install & SetUp £29.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender System Repair £59.99 GBP
A totall of: £215.60
Or have I made a mistake?

You asked about computer protection.
Now you're listing several different products, you only need 1.
And system repair isnt protection, but for recovery.
Best recovery is : make regular backups on external device like usb-harddisk.

So it shouldnt cost more then 40 GPB for 1 year, thats really maximum. If you check the Kaspersky website, " For Home " ,
" Total security " you can see it costs 34,99.
You can also choose for 2 years and/or multiple devices.
With multiple devices you could share costs with for example 2 friends and all have the same protection-product.

Bitdefender is also good protection, i based answer on several antivirus-tests by different sites.
Kaspersky has been best last 2 years.
But there could be other tests/websites that give different score.
Depends on how test is done and who pays. Smile
Anyhow, Kaspersky , Bitdefender and Norton are all good choices.
Almost no difference in protection-level between those 3.

Thinking about it : Not 1 product can give you 100% protection.
Using common sense is best defence.
- dont mindlessy click on everthing
- make backups
- dont be a user with administrator rights.
seperate administrator account if you want to install something.
- use Firefox and add Adblock plugin
- dont save passwords in your browser to autofill website-logins.

more advanced
- use EMET, free microsoft tool.
- disable IP6 protocol, only IP4 needed.
- disable unused processes
- disable filesharing, printersharing

More things you can do, google on hardening windows 7.
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01-07-2015, 12:43 AM
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RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
(01-06-2015 09:05 PM)Golempie Wrote:  
(01-05-2015 03:20 AM)BrickyBrian Wrote:  I used to use AVG as I wrote above but as they increased their charge by 17% and also charge to cover my Laptop I have dumped them.

I then keyed in, “What is the best Anti Virus” on the Web and Randall Sutherland ‏ came up with Bitdefender Antivirus Plus at £19.27.
I keyed that into the Web which came up with “Bitdefender Antivirus Plus 2015 £41.63 GBP.
That then came up with Bitdefender Virus and Spyware Removal (Bitdefender recommended) £83.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender Install & SetUp £29.99 GBP
Plus Bitdefender System Repair £59.99 GBP
A totall of: £215.60
Or have I made a mistake?

You asked about computer protection.
Now you're listing several different products, you only need 1.
And system repair isnt protection, but for recovery.
Best recovery is : make regular backups on external device like usb-harddisk.

So it shouldnt cost more then 40 GPB for 1 year, thats really maximum. If you check the Kaspersky website, " For Home " ,
" Total security " you can see it costs 34,99.
You can also choose for 2 years and/or multiple devices.
With multiple devices you could share costs with for example 2 friends and all have the same protection-product.

Bitdefender is also good protection, i based answer on several antivirus-tests by different sites.
Kaspersky has been best last 2 years.
But there could be other tests/websites that give different score.
Depends on how test is done and who pays. Smile
Anyhow, Kaspersky , Bitdefender and Norton are all good choices.
Almost no difference in protection-level between those 3.

Thinking about it : Not 1 product can give you 100% protection.
Using common sense is best defence.
- dont mindlessy click on everthing
- make backups
- dont be a user with administrator rights.
seperate administrator account if you want to install something.
- use Firefox and add Adblock plugin
- dont save passwords in your browser to autofill website-logins.

more advanced
- use EMET, free microsoft tool.
- disable IP6 protocol, only IP4 needed.
- disable unused processes
- disable filesharing, printersharing

More things you can do, google on hardening windows 7.

Many thanks for all the information. I will now have to get my technically grandson over and talk it through with him.#
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01-07-2015, 05:08 PM
Post: #6
RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
You also should take Linux a a serious option.

Seeing you have a grandson im guessing you probally dont play the newest fastpaced games.
If you using the computer for basic things only like websites browsing, mail, word/excel, simple games.

Its much easier use Linux instead of trying to protect Windows against virus/malware.
Linux is free and by design much safer than Windows.

Almost all virusses and malware are made for Windows and just dont work on Linux.
No need for security software like virusscanners.
Im running Linux for about 7 years now without virusscan. No problems at all.

You try for example Linux Mint without installing with something called a liveCD.
The computer is started from the CD, making no changes to your current system.
After restarting computer and removing the CD, your Windows starts up again.

Its offcourse slower if not installed, but good to see what im talking about without any hassle.
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01-07-2015, 07:39 PM
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RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
My primary use of a computer is writing and researching things that come up as I go along. Historical matters such as the Potsdam, the number of people the Japs murdered in China. Would Linux cope with that and if so why is it not used more widely?
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01-07-2015, 09:16 PM (This post was last modified: 01-07-2015 09:19 PM by Golempie.)
Post: #8
RE: A reliable and fair computer protection.
Linux can do everthing that Windows does.
But it cant run Windows-programs directly. There is a program called Wine that
can run most of Windows programs from Linux.
But for most windows-programs there is a Linux alternative.

Do you have some special program that you use for your research ?
Writing is not a problem. Linux Mint has the also free LibreOffice within.

Why is it not used more widely ?
Thats a bit historical too. Smile

Schools/Education get sponsor from Microsoft, gettingfor new pc for free or very low cost, as long they use Windows.
Kids learn about Windows, not Linux.

Buy a new computer, you get Windows. Try finding a new computer without Windows.

Linux is free, no big company that uses money for commercials to let people know about Linux.
The big public just dont know Linux exists.

The new exiting games you see on TV arent made for Linux.
Dont get me wrong, there are games for Linux. (also free)

Linux is not 1 product, 1 company like Windows.
Its fragmented , there a lot different distributions/flavours.
That has advantages but also drawbacks.
Linux Mint is the most used Linux and because of that the most support.

But it is worth it to try it through the liveCD. It doesnt cost you anything but time.
Maybe the grandson can show you Linux.
Be carefull if you install it, make a backup of your personal files first.
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